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Post by tamuril on Jun 13, 2005 14:58:18 GMT -5
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Post by Sokar on Jun 13, 2005 15:34:03 GMT -5
Um, i think were starting at level 1... Drow start at at least level 3...
Also, Yor drow can not be profiencient w/the xen'drik bommerang, because even though you are from xen'drik, you treat the bommerang as a martial weapon, and Martial Weapon Profiency: Xen'Drik boomerang is not a feature of the rogue class. Come to think of it, i don't see feats listed any where...
How can you have 0 Exp? Drow MUST start with at least 6000...
These weapons-Drow long knife, and the chain thingy, what book are they in?
You should have used the starting gold of a third level character.
Sorry for being Mr. Negitive, but...
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Post by HyDrO_DooM on Jun 13, 2005 19:55:13 GMT -5
i may have not mentioned this but you have to roll your ability scores with me before you can make you character only 2 or 3 of you have done this, if u made a character without doing this it will not count...sorry
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Post by phdragon on Jun 13, 2005 21:47:09 GMT -5
Hmmm, well, i guess we'll need to set up a time to meet and everything then. As i stated earlier though, i've been having a problem setting up an AIM account but i do have an MSN account at c_jong@hotmail.com
Have we decided on a time to play yet? I left a post in the other thread asking if we could start half an hour later but no one's responded to that yet.
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Post by Giades on Jun 13, 2005 22:09:17 GMT -5
Couldn't the person just say how they came up with their results, and if it sounds true and fair, then accept it, whether or not you watched us roll it? for example, I didn't get an 18 roll, I used a 16 on constitution, which the warforged get +2 on. also, I used a 14 and a 13 for both charisma and wisdom. that brings my rolls to 16, 13, 16, 13, 13, 14. which are basically average stats(meaning the low is 12, and the high is 18). of course if you think its unfair, like if one of those 13's should be a 12 or an 11, I'll change it accordingly. also, since this is only a suggestion, I am willing to reroll.
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Post by HyDrO_DooM on Jun 13, 2005 22:22:02 GMT -5
me and giades worked it out but from now on they have to be rolled with me, jake or cbolt
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Post by tamuril on Jun 13, 2005 22:22:45 GMT -5
Um, i think were starting at level 1... Drow start at at least level 3... Also, Yor drow can not be profiencient w/the xen'drik bommerang, because even though you are from xen'drik, you treat the bommerang as a martial weapon, and Martial Weapon Profiency: Xen'Drik boomerang is not a feature of the rogue class. Come to think of it, i don't see feats listed any where... How can you have 0 Exp? Drow MUST start with at least 6000... These weapons-Drow long knife, and the chain thingy, what book are they in? You should have used the starting gold of a third level character. Sorry for being Mr. Negitive, but... Oh no, I don't mind at all. Ha ha, I'd rather be corrected so I don't make furure mistakes. But, I can use the Xen'drik Bommerang because I have the Drow Skirmisher feat allowing me to be proficient with the Drow Long Knife, Drow Scorpian Chain and the Xen'drik Bommerang because I am a drow and from the Xen'drik region. I found this feat and the weapons in the Races of Eberron book. Since we are playing in Eberron. Sorry Sokar, with my past DMs I have been allowed to play a level adjusted character, I just have to account for the experience points which I can and know how to do. I cleared it with the DM and the DM's assistant to be allowed to play a drow after I made up my character and presented it to him. And I don't think I should be starting with Level 3 gold because I'm still technically just a level 1 adventurer. I've talked to HydroDoom and he says he'd like me to keep my level 1 gear seeing as he wants to keep it fair for everyone. |
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Post by HyDrO_DooM on Jun 13, 2005 22:44:49 GMT -5
yes sokar its ok, everything is accounted for, he is just like a 1st lvl charecter, he can't lvl up until he gets 6000exp  |
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Post by fritters on Jun 14, 2005 16:56:57 GMT -5
Sokar, you forgot to add the halfing race abilities to your skills and you're saves.
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Post by Sokar on Jun 14, 2005 17:55:09 GMT -5
Um, i think were starting at level 1... Drow start at at least level 3... Also, Yor drow can not be profiencient w/the xen'drik bommerang, because even though you are from xen'drik, you treat the bommerang as a martial weapon, and Martial Weapon Profiency: Xen'Drik boomerang is not a feature of the rogue class. Come to think of it, i don't see feats listed any where... How can you have 0 Exp? Drow MUST start with at least 6000... These weapons-Drow long knife, and the chain thingy, what book are they in? You should have used the starting gold of a third level character. Sorry for being Mr. Negitive, but... Oh no, I don't mind at all. Ha ha, I'd rather be corrected so I don't make furure mistakes. But, I can use the Xen'drik Bommerang because I have the Drow Skirmisher feat allowing me to be proficient with the Drow Long Knife, Drow Scorpian Chain and the Xen'drik Bommerang because I am a drow and from the Xen'drik region. I found this feat and the weapons in the Races of Eberron book. Since we are playing in Eberron. Sorry Sokar, with my past DMs I have been allowed to play a level adjusted character, I just have to account for the experience points which I can and know how to do. I cleared it with the DM and the DM's assistant to be allowed to play a drow after I made up my character and presented it to him. And I don't think I should be starting with Level 3 gold because I'm still technically just a level 1 adventurer. I've talked to HydroDoom and he says he'd like me to keep my level 1 gear seeing as he wants to keep it fair for everyone. Whatever. I don't have races of ebberon yet, so i apologize for my rudeness on that issue If Hydro says it's okay, i won't press matters further. But just to let everyone know, the rules ARE on my side. (DMG pg 280 something) Fritters- Thanks for the heads up. I'll add those in |
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Post by phdragon on Jun 14, 2005 19:13:20 GMT -5
I've decided to change my character to a human wizard instead of a psychic warrior since we seem to already have quite a few front liners in the group. Anyways, here it is: www.3eprofiler.net/3ep/view.php?id=25418And wow, i just noticed that 3 of the characters posted so far have chaotic neutral alignments. Just an observation. |
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Post by HyDrO_DooM on Jun 14, 2005 19:33:25 GMT -5
Sokar i would really like you too point me in the right direction of those rules, i don't see anything about that in the DMG i check in the area you said and looked around and didn't see anything so please let me know where to find it
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Post by Sokar on Jun 14, 2005 20:15:48 GMT -5
Sokar i would really like you too point me in the right direction of those rules, i don't see anything about that in the DMG i check in the area you said and looked around and didn't see anything so please let me know where to find it Sorry, the page i gave was wrong!!! Page 172 I quote: "...Add a monster's level adjustment to its hit dice and class levels to determine it's effective character level or ECL. Effectivley, monsters with a level adjustment become multiclass characters when they take their first class level. <irrelavant stuff>... Use ECL instead of character level when reffering to table 3-2: Experiance and Level Dependant Beniftsd in the PHB to determine how many experiance points a monster character needs to reach it's next level. Also use ECL when reffering to table 5-1: Character Whealth by Level to determine the starting gold of a monster character... The rest of it is on page 172. i don't feel like typing it. Example: Drow with one level of rogue. Because a drow only has one hit die, that hit die is replaced by the first class level, and thus gains a feat and 4 times the skill points. So, a drow rogue has the following: 1d6 hit die 1 feat. (Feats and skills are based off of Hit dice, not ECL) 8+int modifier*4 Skill points. At least 6000exp. The starting gold of a third level character. Earns treasure and experiance as a third level character. If you doubt me, ask at boards1.wizards.comThey'll be more than happy to help. Hydro, i see where you're going with your idea, but if you do that, considering delaying some of the racial traits untill higher levels, because, adventuring with a first level party, that charaacter will overpower all of us. |
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Post by Giades on Jun 15, 2005 0:02:09 GMT -5
it might overpower some of us, but not me lol. it might be drow, but its still only a rogue. so except in cases where stealth is required, it'll be about the same as an average char. and also, bear in mind the drow mostly has a ecl mod for its spell like abilities, not for an additonal hit dice or anything, plus their ability score mods aren't incredible, so things should be fine. plus, we'll catch up quickly, and they'll reach level 4 at about the same time as us.
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tamurils character is fine
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Post by tamurils character is fine on Jun 15, 2005 1:37:06 GMT -5
"...Add a monster's level adjustment to its hit dice and class levels to determine it's effective character level or ECL. Effectivley, monsters with a level adjustment become multiclass characters when they take their first class level. <irrelavant stuff>... Use ECL instead of character level when reffering to table 3-2: Experiance and Level Dependant Beniftsd in the PHB to determine how many experiance points a monster character needs to reach it's next level. Also use ECL when reffering to table 5-1: Character Whealth by Level to determine the starting gold of a monster character... Example: Drow with one level of rogue. Because a drow only has one hit die, that hit die is replaced by the first class level, and thus gains a feat and 4 times the skill points. So, a drow rogue has the following: 1d6 hit die 1 feat. (Feats and skills are based off of Hit dice, not ECL) 8+int modifier*4 Skill points. At least 6000exp. The starting gold of a third level character. Earns treasure and experiance as a third level character. With the system we have in place for the character, this is what will happen: Party, at 2nd level: Halfling Paladin: 1000xp, CR2, 900gp Shifter Warlock: 1000xp, CR2, 900gp Human PsyWar: 1000xp, CR2, 900gp Drow Rogue: 1000xp, CR 2, 900gp Party, at 3rd level: Halfling Paladin: 3000xp, CR3, 2700gp Shifter Warlock: 3000xp, CR3, 2700gp Human PsyWar: 3000xp, CR3, 2700gp Drow Rogue: 3000xp, CR2, 2700gp Party, at 4th level: Halfling Paladin: 6000xp, CR4, 5400gp Shifter Warlock: 6000xp, CR4, 5400gp Human PsyWar: 6000xp, CR4, 5400gp Drow Rogue: 6000xp, CR3, 5400gp Party, at 5th level: 10000xp, CR5, 9000gp Halfling Paladin: 10000xp, CR5, 9000gp Shifter Warlock: 10000xp, CR5, 9000gp Human PsyWar: 10000xp, CR5, 9000gp Drow Rogue: 10000xp, CR4, 9000gp And it keeps going until eventually you're balanced together. Technically tamuril's character is below the challange rating until the character levels at 4th level, then it's at where it's supposed to be. We went through this carefully, so that Alasse at a significant disadvantage as she levels to balance her immediate advantage, and the DM knows about her Spell Resistance, Darkvision, and her spell-like abilities (which gave her that LA) and with a minor adjustment he can easily make those advantages useless until the party is balanced. Also, without this system and her playing a higher level character, there's the XP to consider. She'd be getting less xp and treasure anyhow in comparison, and you'd all be even with her farther down the road. I know what the main argument is here though, you want to play something with a higher ECL if she gets to. That's the argument every single time, or the argument is against higher ECL's period. Cause people end up picking something mechanically awesome at the cost of decent storyline. However, tamuril did the exact opposite, and has created a character I expect you will all be pleasantly surprised at how well made Alasse is, and how tamuril plays class, race, region, and alignment very effectively. And Sokar, let me add at this point that if you do not play a Lawful Good Halfling Paladin of the Silver Flame who's from the Talenta Plains, I'll catch it if Hydro_Doom doesn't. (And I will be getting records of games in cases I can't make it to watch firsthand). |
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